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  #21  
Unread 12-22-2013, 04:44 PM
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So according to you @Godbody a "rapper" could have dope ass subject matter and not Rhyme any words at all and he would be a dope rapper?
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So according to you @Godbody a "rapper" could have dope ass subject matter and not Rhyme any words at all and he would be a dope rapper?
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No Mr Felon. Rhyming is an element of the genre but it doesn't constitute the entire thing nor does the importance lie in rhyming otherwise Gucci Mane, Waka, French, & dudes of that sort wouldn't exist

For example; you can say a lot of dope shit as far as subject matter Mr. Felon. But since you can't rhyme for shit, you're not a great rapper.


& lol @Jason saying Hip-Hop was created for the same purpose it has today. That's not true nor is it hipster shit. Blacks have always been oppressed and have always fought the system. Realize we're talking about the 1980's here. 'Officially' its over but prejudice and discrimination were still prevalent and unless you were a basketball player or a drug dealer you didn't have a way out. That's how they viewed it. Those were their options. I wouldn't expect a white kid from bumblefuck Canada to relate or understand any of that, because you've always had an advantage over hispanics and blacks due to your skin color alone whether you realize that or not

I'm not saying blacks couldn't do anything other than sports, drugs, and rap. I'm saying thats how THEY thought. So naturally they'll choose a way out based on their peers that found ways out doing 1 of the above.

Keep in mind I work in the Bronx daily and its the mecca of Hip-Hop. You'll find an OG on every other street corner droppin knowledge about some shit. Aint nobody tellin me shit about the origins of Hip-Hop or its purpose.

Money is just a way out for everyone. A lot of things were created for different reasons other than money and were monetized later.

& I said Wax was a better ARTIST than Eminem. That cannot be debated. He makes beats too, he plays instruments, he records his own shit, he puts his own shit out. That's artistry. Your reading comprehension skills are lacking @Jason . Someone as insecure as you is always on the defensive about shit.... so eager to double-post to prove a point that nobody agrees with but not willing to do your due diligence and properly attack a valid point of mine.

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No Mr Felon. Rhyming is an element of the genre but it doesn't constitute the entire thing nor does the importance lie in rhyming otherwise Gucci Mane, Waka, French, & dudes of that sort wouldn't exist

For example; you can say a lot of dope shit as far as subject matter Mr. Felon. But since you can't rhyme for shit, you're not a great rapper.


& lol @Jason saying Hip-Hop was created for the same purpose it has today. That's not true nor is it hipster shit. Blacks have always been oppressed and have always fought the system. Realize we're talking about the 1980's here. 'Officially' its over but prejudice and discrimination were still prevalent and unless you were a basketball player or a drug dealer you didn't have a way out. That's how they viewed it. Those were their options. I wouldn't expect a white kid from bumblefuck Canada to relate or understand any of that, because you've always had an advantage over hispanics and blacks due to your skin color alone whether you realize that or not

I'm not saying blacks couldn't do anything other than sports, drugs, and rap. I'm saying thats how THEY thought. So naturally they'll choose a way out based on their peers that found ways out doing 1 of the above.

Keep in mind I work in the Bronx daily and its the mecca of Hip-Hop. You'll find an OG on every other street corner droppin knowledge about some shit. Aint nobody tellin me shit about the origins of Hip-Hop or its purpose.

Money is just a way out for everyone. A lot of things were created for different reasons other than money and were monetized later.

& I said Wax was a better ARTIST than Eminem. That cannot be debated. He makes beats too, he plays instruments, he records his own shit, he puts his own shit out. That's artistry. Your reading comprehension skills are lacking @Jason . Someone as insecure as you is always on the defensive about shit.... so eager to double-post to prove a point that nobody agrees with but not willing to do your due diligence and properly attack a valid point of mine.

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Unread 12-22-2013, 05:22 PM
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I haven't heard the whole Mmlp 2 yet black thought is good so is Eminem
Ive been listening to YouTube eminem freestyles and I got to say I'm getting kind of sick of them
He doesn't amaze me as much as he use too
How is Mmlp 2?
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I haven't heard the whole Mmlp 2 yet black thought is good so is Eminem
Ive been listening to YouTube eminem freestyles and I got to say I'm getting kind of sick of them
He doesn't amaze me as much as he use too
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Unread 12-22-2013, 05:26 PM
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MMLP2 is definitely better than his last 2 projects I'd say

But then again I could probably shit near a microphone and record every session until I have 16 tracks of me shitting ...& that'll probably go toe-to-toe with Relapse & Recovery
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MMLP2 is definitely better than his last 2 projects I'd say

But then again I could probably shit near a microphone and record every session until I have 16 tracks of me shitting ...& that'll probably go toe-to-toe with Relapse & Recovery
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Unread 12-22-2013, 06:00 PM
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@Godbody and @NOBLE , blackthought has just as much to say if not more than em… both got mad style and deserve mad respect. I like that his BET verse ended up on a track on "How I got over" LP… beat on album was way better for that verse.

Good thread discussion.
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Also, @Godbody , I'm not one to stray from intellectual conversation just because you put me off with that holocaust denying jam…. I think you have plenty of valid opinions and ideas, but I'm going to openly disagree at will when necessary…. On that note,

You should read the book, "Can't Stop, Won't Stop" by Jeffrey Chang. Its an incredibly well researched and written history of hip hop starting with South Bronx in late 1960's. Real, real good history…. on point, so check it. Keep it real 100.

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@Godbody and @NOBLE , blackthought has just as much to say if not more than em… both got mad style and deserve mad respect. I like that his BET verse ended up on a track on "How I got over" LP… beat on album was way better for that verse.

Good thread discussion.
Peace, FREAK.

---------- Post added at 05:59 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:53 PM ----------

Also, @Godbody , I'm not one to stray from intellectual conversation just because you put me off with that holocaust denying jam…. I think you have plenty of valid opinions and ideas, but I'm going to openly disagree at will when necessary…. On that note,

You should read the book, "Can't Stop, Won't Stop" by Jeffrey Chang. Its an incredibly well researched and written history of hip hop starting with South Bronx in late 1960's. Real, real good history…. on point, so check it. Keep it real 100.

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R.I.P. to ODB and no disrespect to him but I feel the same way about him as I do about Notorious BIG

They're average at BEST. They're a step above mediocre tbh. And at times they're above average but that's rare. I would body them both written or freestyle and that's not even disrespect because I respect the fuck outta BIG. Couldn't tell you how many Biggie ringtones I had on my Sidekick..the good old days
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R.I.P. to ODB and no disrespect to him but I feel the same way about him as I do about Notorious BIG

They're average at BEST. They're a step above mediocre tbh. And at times they're above average but that's rare. I would body them both written or freestyle and that's not even disrespect because I respect the fuck outta BIG. Couldn't tell you how many Biggie ringtones I had on my Sidekick..the good old days
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what the underground overlooks is mass appeal. the way it sounds is just as important to a song as the lyrics .... .... The more u know
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imo the roots water prolly better the anything em got... but its all personal preference.... blackthought stay merkin ppl in cyphers though check his recent one had like sean price lil fame... but blackthought jus went crazy on it hes overlooked coz he in a band i guess
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imo the roots water prolly better the anything em got... but its all personal preference.... blackthought stay merkin ppl in cyphers though check his recent one had like sean price lil fame... but blackthought jus went crazy on it hes overlooked coz he in a band i guess
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Estimated Skill in Text: 8.63/10 starsEstimated Skill in Text: 8.63/10 starsEstimated Skill in Text: 8.63/10 starsEstimated Skill in Text: 8.63/10 starsEstimated Skill in Text: 8.63/10 starsEstimated Skill in Text: 8.63/10 starsEstimated Skill in Text: 8.63/10 starsEstimated Skill in Text: 8.63/10 starsEstimated Skill in Text: 8.13/10 starsEstimated Skill in Text: 8.13/10 stars
Ranked Text Record
6 Won / 2 Lost
 
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