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As I'm sure the rest of you have, as well, I've recently noticed an upswing in the younger demographic. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing, as it denotes the popularity of battle rap with a younger audience.


BUT....


A lot of us post unsavory material for these younger age groups, that we(per the site guidelines) are responsible for individually. E.G. Supsie often posts pornographic content. We all curse heavily, and discuss other rather adult themes unsuitable for children. Obscene violence, derogatory remarks such as slurs, etc etc.

Plus, battle rap events, at large, are 18+ generally for not only these reasons, but, because of their locations(often taking place in bars, or clubs). I think it's important that we, as a site, take similar steps. As to avoid any unnecessary problems by allotting younger users on the site.


Now, I realize that there are parental and explicit warnings on the site already. But, personally, I think we should include an age verification mechanism on the site(having to fill out your birth date, for example.) And before you say it, yes, people will lie about their age. But, despite that, I think we should AT THE VERY LEAST make some attempt at deterrence to exposing these younger age groups to this type of content.


Similarly, these steps help to avoid potential predatory actions. As, there have been people on the site who show some degree of potential predatory behavior, in regard to child abuse(2 Gucci, Rohaan as examples.). These types of people should not be allowed a group of younger children from which to select.


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As I'm sure the rest of you have, as well, I've recently noticed an upswing in the younger demographic. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing, as it denotes the popularity of battle rap with a younger audience.


BUT....


A lot of us post unsavory material for these younger age groups, that we(per the site guidelines) are responsible for individually. E.G. Supsie often posts pornographic content. We all curse heavily, and discuss other rather adult themes unsuitable for children. Obscene violence, derogatory remarks such as slurs, etc etc.

Plus, battle rap events, at large, are 18+ generally for not only these reasons, but, because of their locations(often taking place in bars, or clubs). I think it's important that we, as a site, take similar steps. As to avoid any unnecessary problems by allotting younger users on the site.


Now, I realize that there are parental and explicit warnings on the site already. But, personally, I think we should include an age verification mechanism on the site(having to fill out your birth date, for example.) And before you say it, yes, people will lie about their age. But, despite that, I think we should AT THE VERY LEAST make some attempt at deterrence to exposing these younger age groups to this type of content.


Similarly, these steps help to avoid potential predatory actions. As, there have been people on the site who show some degree of potential predatory behavior, in regard to child abuse(2 Gucci, Rohaan as examples.). These types of people should not be allowed a group of younger children from which to select.


What do YOU think?

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Shiiit, I joined this site age 16 and nothing I came across was really new to me or disturbing. I can't speak on everyone but through personal experience I'd have to say no
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Shiiit, I joined this site age 16 and nothing I came across was really new to me or disturbing. I can't speak on everyone but through personal experience I'd have to say no
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Shiiit, I joined this site age 16 and nothing I came across was really new to me or disturbing. I can't speak on everyone but through personal experience I'd have to say no
Whether you're disturbed by it, or not is beside the point here, though. Take Supsie as an example, again. If minors see the pornographic material he posts, he could potentially be in legal trouble over this type of situation. It's as much about protecting the adult userbase as it is the child userbase. @Bape
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Shiiit, I joined this site age 16 and nothing I came across was really new to me or disturbing. I can't speak on everyone but through personal experience I'd have to say no
Whether you're disturbed by it, or not is beside the point here, though. Take Supsie as an example, again. If minors see the pornographic material he posts, he could potentially be in legal trouble over this type of situation. It's as much about protecting the adult userbase as it is the child userbase. @Bape
 
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> Calls me a child predator.

> I actually babysit kids all the time.



You shouldn't be making fun of people for praying on children when you look like your age preference is within the 13 - 16 range.

Let me ask you this, when was the last time you went outside?
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> Calls me a child predator.

> I actually babysit kids all the time.



You shouldn't be making fun of people for praying on children when you look like your age preference is within the 13 - 16 range.

Let me ask you this, when was the last time you went outside?
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> Calls me a child predator.

> I actually babysit kids all the time.
Yeah, because a child predator would never choose to babysit children. Not like that provides ease of access, or anything. And that most child molesters are people who have access to their victims through familial, or interpersonal connections.

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Let me ask you this, when was the last time you went outside?
When that picture was taken.

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> Calls me a child predator.

> I actually babysit kids all the time.
Yeah, because a child predator would never choose to babysit children. Not like that provides ease of access, or anything. And that most child molesters are people who have access to their victims through familial, or interpersonal connections.

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Let me ask you this, when was the last time you went outside?
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People of younger age shouldn't be stripped of coming onto our site just because 2Gucci is a proven paedophile.

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Whether you're disturbed by it, or not is beside the point here, though. Take Supsie as an example, again. If minors see the pornographic material he posts, he could potentially be in legal trouble over this type of situation. It's as much about protecting the adult userbase as it is the child userbase. @Bape
Good point and I can see where you are coming from but Supsie is a grown man, he is completely responsible for his actions and should fend for himself
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People of younger age shouldn't be stripped of coming onto our site just because 2Gucci is a proven paedophile.

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Whether you're disturbed by it, or not is beside the point here, though. Take Supsie as an example, again. If minors see the pornographic material he posts, he could potentially be in legal trouble over this type of situation. It's as much about protecting the adult userbase as it is the child userbase. @Bape
Good point and I can see where you are coming from but Supsie is a grown man, he is completely responsible for his actions and should fend for himself
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Good point and I can see where you are coming from but Supsie is a grown man, he is completely responsible for his actions and should fend for himself
Okay, but, it's not just Supsie. You could similarly be in a situation like this, without even having to post porn. And sure, we're all responsible for what we post. No doubt. But, that doesn't mean that we should facilitate as a site a younger userbase to be exposed to these types of posts. How many people have you called a faggot, etc? Do you think children should OPENLY, without at least some deterrent be exposed to this type of material? Again, people will lie about their age. Children will sign up regardless. But, should the site be making it so easy for them to do so?
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Good point and I can see where you are coming from but Supsie is a grown man, he is completely responsible for his actions and should fend for himself
Okay, but, it's not just Supsie. You could similarly be in a situation like this, without even having to post porn. And sure, we're all responsible for what we post. No doubt. But, that doesn't mean that we should facilitate as a site a younger userbase to be exposed to these types of posts. How many people have you called a faggot, etc? Do you think children should OPENLY, without at least some deterrent be exposed to this type of material? Again, people will lie about their age. Children will sign up regardless. But, should the site be making it so easy for them to do so?
 
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Okay, but, it's not just Supsie. You could similarly be in a situation like this, without even having to post porn. And sure, we're all responsible for what we post. No doubt. But, that doesn't mean that we should facilitate as a site a younger userbase to be exposed to these types of posts. How many people have you called a faggot, etc? Do you think children should OPENLY, without at least some deterrent be exposed to this type of material? Again, people will lie about their age. Children will sign up regardless. But, should the site be making it so easy for them to do so?
We should not have to cut a section of our demographic due to a few bad eggs. LB has block buttons this stops you from having to even see something someone puts in the forum. The only time we should have to step in is when dealing with a predator like Gucci, someone being called a faggot or porn being posted isn't a huge issue in my opinion.
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Okay, but, it's not just Supsie. You could similarly be in a situation like this, without even having to post porn. And sure, we're all responsible for what we post. No doubt. But, that doesn't mean that we should facilitate as a site a younger userbase to be exposed to these types of posts. How many people have you called a faggot, etc? Do you think children should OPENLY, without at least some deterrent be exposed to this type of material? Again, people will lie about their age. Children will sign up regardless. But, should the site be making it so easy for them to do so?
We should not have to cut a section of our demographic due to a few bad eggs. LB has block buttons this stops you from having to even see something someone puts in the forum. The only time we should have to step in is when dealing with a predator like Gucci, someone being called a faggot or porn being posted isn't a huge issue in my opinion.
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We should not have to cut a section of our demographic due to a few bad eggs. LB has block buttons this stops you from having to even see something someone puts in the forum. The only time we should have to step in is when dealing with a predator like Gucci, someone being called a faggot or porn being posted isn't a huge issue in my opinion.
The term adult content is such for a reason. Because it isn't suitable for children. This is why albums have parental advisories. An age verification is no different than a parental advisory sticker. All you're doing is filling in a birthday. It's just an extra layer of, "Hey, this is ADULT CONTENT." So, even if you don't see porn being posted, or children being exposed to these types of posts as a problem, why not add that small layer of extra deterrence to help to avoid any unnecessary issues that can be avoided by it?

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A better question might be, does the site flag up as adult in households with age protection on their wifi? Cause if not the same kids can look at any shit they want online with no obstacles.
This is actually a really good point. Shouts.
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We should not have to cut a section of our demographic due to a few bad eggs. LB has block buttons this stops you from having to even see something someone puts in the forum. The only time we should have to step in is when dealing with a predator like Gucci, someone being called a faggot or porn being posted isn't a huge issue in my opinion.
The term adult content is such for a reason. Because it isn't suitable for children. This is why albums have parental advisories. An age verification is no different than a parental advisory sticker. All you're doing is filling in a birthday. It's just an extra layer of, "Hey, this is ADULT CONTENT." So, even if you don't see porn being posted, or children being exposed to these types of posts as a problem, why not add that small layer of extra deterrence to help to avoid any unnecessary issues that can be avoided by it?

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The term adult content is such for a reason. Because it isn't suitable for children. This is why albums have parental advisories. An age verification is no different than a parental advisory sticker. All you're doing is filling in a birthday. It's just an extra layer of, "Hey, this is ADULT CONTENT." So, even if you don't see porn being posted, or children being exposed to these types of posts as a problem, why not add that small layer of extra deterrence to help to avoid any unnecessary issues that can be avoided by it?
You have a point but like we both know it won't really do much besides protect the site if an issue arose, which I can't see ever happening.
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The term adult content is such for a reason. Because it isn't suitable for children. This is why albums have parental advisories. An age verification is no different than a parental advisory sticker. All you're doing is filling in a birthday. It's just an extra layer of, "Hey, this is ADULT CONTENT." So, even if you don't see porn being posted, or children being exposed to these types of posts as a problem, why not add that small layer of extra deterrence to help to avoid any unnecessary issues that can be avoided by it?
You have a point but like we both know it won't really do much besides protect the site if an issue arose, which I can't see ever happening.
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