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Originally Posted by Lil Talent
Personally, I rarely vote on audio battles because I'm not too experienced in them. When I do vote on them, I make a holistic judgement, which is always dependent on the specifics of the situation and can't really be given in general terms.
However, if I had to quantify how I balance execution and writing, I wouldn't prioritise either. Imagine execution (mic presence, flow etc) gets one total mark out of 10. Then writing quality (punches, wordplay, rhyming etc) also gets a total mark out of 10. Multiply each of those together. This means that someone that is all-round is better off if both emcees are equally skilled in total (5x5>9x1). If it was a case of 9-1 vs 1-9 in terms of delivery-writing then it would just come down to which I subjectively preferred.
But again, any rigidly mathematical algorithm takes away from the point of rap battling, because it isn't a science, its an art.
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ARE YOU SHODAN's SON? LMAO.....
MAKES SENSE WHAT YOUR SAYIN THO AN YOU WORDED THAT SHIT REALLY WELL IMO DUDE.
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Originally Posted by Lil Talent
Personally, I rarely vote on audio battles because I'm not too experienced in them. When I do vote on them, I make a holistic judgement, which is always dependent on the specifics of the situation and can't really be given in general terms.
However, if I had to quantify how I balance execution and writing, I wouldn't prioritise either. Imagine execution (mic presence, flow etc) gets one total mark out of 10. Then writing quality (punches, wordplay, rhyming etc) also gets a total mark out of 10. Multiply each of those together. This means that someone that is all-round is better off if both emcees are equally skilled in total (5x5>9x1). If it was a case of 9-1 vs 1-9 in terms of delivery-writing then it would just come down to which I subjectively preferred.
But again, any rigidly mathematical algorithm takes away from the point of rap battling, because it isn't a science, its an art.
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ARE YOU SHODAN's SON? LMAO.....
MAKES SENSE WHAT YOUR SAYIN THO AN YOU WORDED THAT SHIT REALLY WELL IMO DUDE.
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Originally Posted by Kompz
lmao dudes really doing math equations to vote on battles foh, when i listen to a audio battle im tryna be entertained. i always wanna hear bars but im not tryna hear somebody whispering either, performance plays a bigger factor imo.
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ALOT OF TEXT VOTERS GO IN DEPTH AS ITS SOMETIMES TOO CLOSE TO CALL.
SO WOULD YOU PREFER SOMEONE POSTS THEIR VERSE INTO THA COMMENTS SO YOU CAN READ ALONG WHILE LISTENIN, OR PREFER JUS TO LISTEN?
JUS WONDERIN...
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Originally Posted by Kompz
lmao dudes really doing math equations to vote on battles foh, when i listen to a audio battle im tryna be entertained. i always wanna hear bars but im not tryna hear somebody whispering either, performance plays a bigger factor imo.
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ALOT OF TEXT VOTERS GO IN DEPTH AS ITS SOMETIMES TOO CLOSE TO CALL.
SO WOULD YOU PREFER SOMEONE POSTS THEIR VERSE INTO THA COMMENTS SO YOU CAN READ ALONG WHILE LISTENIN, OR PREFER JUS TO LISTEN?
JUS WONDERIN...
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No disrespect @ Rai @ Guts but this battle is a perfect example of what? Rai is a great writer no question but so am i. If this battle was text it still could have went either way. Did you read the relevancy of the bars that tied into haymakers? The consistency of the shots plus the creativity involved? Not to mention the syllable count? Rai verse was fire no question and his performance was good but to try and slander my work by saying that this battle is a perfect example of How i get praise for a great flow and shit material is a slap in the face especially from a guy who cant write or spit. Shouts to the champ but i dont believe im winning this particular match due to "Flow". Or any that i win or have won for that matter. I stay humble most of the time because thats hiw i carry myself nowadays dont ever get it twisted i am one of the best artists on letsbeef and i always will be. If you gon attempt to slander someone, make sure you better than them.
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WOW HE REALLY RATTLED YOUR CAGE..... I PARTICULARLY LIKED HOW YOU STARTED WITH ''NO DISRESPECT'' THEN BASICALLY SPAT IN HIS EYEBALLS BY THA END LMAO.
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Originally Posted by ALL-BORO
No disrespect @ Rai @ Guts but this battle is a perfect example of what? Rai is a great writer no question but so am i. If this battle was text it still could have went either way. Did you read the relevancy of the bars that tied into haymakers? The consistency of the shots plus the creativity involved? Not to mention the syllable count? Rai verse was fire no question and his performance was good but to try and slander my work by saying that this battle is a perfect example of How i get praise for a great flow and shit material is a slap in the face especially from a guy who cant write or spit. Shouts to the champ but i dont believe im winning this particular match due to "Flow". Or any that i win or have won for that matter. I stay humble most of the time because thats hiw i carry myself nowadays dont ever get it twisted i am one of the best artists on letsbeef and i always will be. If you gon attempt to slander someone, make sure you better than them.
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WOW HE REALLY RATTLED YOUR CAGE..... I PARTICULARLY LIKED HOW YOU STARTED WITH ''NO DISRESPECT'' THEN BASICALLY SPAT IN HIS EYEBALLS BY THA END LMAO.
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I didn't read the whole thread but, there's gotta be a balance. I take it on a case-by-case basis.
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SO IF THA CASE WAS -
WORST FLOW EVER BUT DOPE LYRICS vs DOPE FLOW AN WORST LYRICS EVER
WHO WOULD YOU VOTE FOR?
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I didn't read the whole thread but, there's gotta be a balance. I take it on a case-by-case basis.
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SO IF THA CASE WAS -
WORST FLOW EVER BUT DOPE LYRICS vs DOPE FLOW AN WORST LYRICS EVER
WHO WOULD YOU VOTE FOR?
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SO IF THA CASE WAS -
WORST FLOW EVER BUT DOPE LYRICS vs DOPE FLOW AN WORST LYRICS EVER
WHO WOULD YOU VOTE FOR?
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For me, I like to reward skill in determining the winner. I think it’s much tougher and takes more skill to write the best lyrics ever, even with the worst flow, than it is to have the best flow with the worst lyrics. So in that described case, I’d go with the lyrics guy.
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Originally Posted by HVK
SO IF THA CASE WAS -
WORST FLOW EVER BUT DOPE LYRICS vs DOPE FLOW AN WORST LYRICS EVER
WHO WOULD YOU VOTE FOR?
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For me, I like to reward skill in determining the winner. I think it’s much tougher and takes more skill to write the best lyrics ever, even with the worst flow, than it is to have the best flow with the worst lyrics. So in that described case, I’d go with the lyrics guy.
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For me, I like to reward skill in determining the winner. I think it’s much tougher and takes more skill to write the best lyrics ever, even with the worst flow, than it is to have the best flow with the worst lyrics. So in that described case, I’d go with the lyrics guy.
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SO WHAT IF IT WAS A FREESTYLE? WOULD IT BE THA SAME RESULT?
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For me, I like to reward skill in determining the winner. I think it’s much tougher and takes more skill to write the best lyrics ever, even with the worst flow, than it is to have the best flow with the worst lyrics. So in that described case, I’d go with the lyrics guy.
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SO WHAT IF IT WAS A FREESTYLE? WOULD IT BE THA SAME RESULT?
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For me, I like to reward skill in determining the winner. I think it’s much tougher and takes more skill to write the best lyrics ever, even with the worst flow, than it is to have the best flow with the worst lyrics. So in that described case, I’d go with the lyrics guy.
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It's definitely not harder to write lyrics.
You ever write and perform a non rap song? Yeah me either. Could write the lyrics in my sleep but don't have the natural talent
If you sound bad, don't rap. Your lyrics are irrelevant at that stage.
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Originally Posted by Edgeworth
For me, I like to reward skill in determining the winner. I think it’s much tougher and takes more skill to write the best lyrics ever, even with the worst flow, than it is to have the best flow with the worst lyrics. So in that described case, I’d go with the lyrics guy.
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It's definitely not harder to write lyrics.
You ever write and perform a non rap song? Yeah me either. Could write the lyrics in my sleep but don't have the natural talent
If you sound bad, don't rap. Your lyrics are irrelevant at that stage.
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Originally Posted by Zodiac-5
It's definitely not harder to write lyrics.
You ever write and perform a non rap song? Yeah me either. Could write the lyrics in my sleep but don't have the natural talent
If you sound bad, don't rap. Your lyrics are irrelevant at that stage.
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My point was more like this.
If i take some people on LB and tell them to write whatever 10 lines of something that flows well when spit out loud. With no bar set for the quality of lines, they don’t even have to make sense or be punches. Most would come back with something that rhymes well. Everyone can rhyme words here. Especially with no requisite level of quality within what you’re actually saying in your bars.
Same exercise but I ask them to write 10 haymakers, most are coming back with trash/can’t do it. It takes a lot of creativity and knowledge to write a haymaker punch. You can’t rhymezone your way into a great punch. You can’t word association your way into a great punch. Gotta have it.
Again, I was just saying in that case where it’s one or the other, as HVK proposed. If it’s a battle where it’s atleast somewhat close in bars but the one guy blows it out of the water with delivery then he wins, obviously.
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Originally Posted by Zodiac-5
It's definitely not harder to write lyrics.
You ever write and perform a non rap song? Yeah me either. Could write the lyrics in my sleep but don't have the natural talent
If you sound bad, don't rap. Your lyrics are irrelevant at that stage.
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My point was more like this.
If i take some people on LB and tell them to write whatever 10 lines of something that flows well when spit out loud. With no bar set for the quality of lines, they don’t even have to make sense or be punches. Most would come back with something that rhymes well. Everyone can rhyme words here. Especially with no requisite level of quality within what you’re actually saying in your bars.
Same exercise but I ask them to write 10 haymakers, most are coming back with trash/can’t do it. It takes a lot of creativity and knowledge to write a haymaker punch. You can’t rhymezone your way into a great punch. You can’t word association your way into a great punch. Gotta have it.
Again, I was just saying in that case where it’s one or the other, as HVK proposed. If it’s a battle where it’s atleast somewhat close in bars but the one guy blows it out of the water with delivery then he wins, obviously.
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SO WHAT IF IT WAS A FREESTYLE? WOULD IT BE THA SAME RESULT?
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I mean I dunno what to say in that case. I wouldn’t really believe someone was freestyling with 0 flow and the best bars ever lol
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SO WHAT IF IT WAS A FREESTYLE? WOULD IT BE THA SAME RESULT?
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I mean I dunno what to say in that case. I wouldn’t really believe someone was freestyling with 0 flow and the best bars ever lol
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I mean I dunno what to say in that case. I wouldn’t really believe someone was freestyling with 0 flow and the best bars ever lol
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VERY GOOD POINT ACTUALLY.... I SUPPOSE THEY WOULDNT BE ON THIS SITE IF THEY COULD LMAO
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I mean I dunno what to say in that case. I wouldn’t really believe someone was freestyling with 0 flow and the best bars ever lol
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VERY GOOD POINT ACTUALLY.... I SUPPOSE THEY WOULDNT BE ON THIS SITE IF THEY COULD LMAO
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