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Unread 04-06-2011, 05:37 PM
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I will honestly body anyone in your crew.. any one of you send some bars & get murdered
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Reefer, Jimmy, Swifty, Pronto, EJT, Erupt
Rican, Crypt, Spook, Flow, Mind, Joey

Personally, one takes it....easily.

I'll let you guys find out who.
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lol....Solo would (b)eat them.................. it's true
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With or without the B thats gay.
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With or without the B thats gay.
 
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Unread 04-06-2011, 07:20 PM
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...See me in the tourney, fuck this...I aint sending shit then, since everyone wanna wait till the tourney, but don't want to "body" anybody for the easy win....makes sense.....pimp *out*
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...See me in the tourney, fuck this...I aint sending shit then, since everyone wanna wait till the tourney, but don't want to "body" anybody for the easy win....makes sense.....pimp *out*
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Unread 04-06-2011, 07:21 PM
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Stop bein a dick sucka@ Notes

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EtH and Moderator hasent been in the same sentance since 2007. UnEtHiCaL poked his head out and smiled before being one again consumed by the hatred buried benieth the depths of EtH.
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I'm Quoting LOQuence ....

[You know it....and i just realized yall said yall captains and leaders would body us???...you've gone to far now...16th ave is dope but he cant beat anybody in our crew and he's not active..King John is a biter...ill find the link when i posted it on his battle...and hes all gunplay...uhhh Dosage, not active..uhhh STOY would probably be the best in your captains, and hes not active.

As for the Leaders Swift isnt active, Ohs imo kinda fell off in the last battles ive seen, but he was dope i guess. Erupt, he's dope, that would be a good battle..Swissha...he'd body me no lie..Pronto doesn't text battle/inactive..SpliFF...not fucking with us...EJT only wrote slightly better in our battle because of flow...HonesThought is dope, probably one of the top on here.

If you look at maestros Rican will body everybody and a close battle would come around with maybe two people...Spooky will do the same..i think, but isnt really active...Cryptology isn't much active so cant say...Black will fuck some shit up...Joey will fuck some shit up...ImAMonster is bout to get back inactive..havent read much from him....Anonymous P will fuck shit up...Grizz...will fuck shit up...Mind Fuckk.....will fuck shit up...Frankie Clipz...will fuck shit up.....Halogen would probably flex most of all..and he just got on here btw...Sanny will fuck shit upp..Amity...will fuck shit up...IAmFlow will definately fuck shit up...last but not least...I'll fuck shit up...lets be honest now, if we all didnt have names on here and our Avys were blank, profiles were blank, crews were blank...who would actually win battles??? who actually has bars???..put aside nameplay...who actually has more talent? who actually is fucking active??? who is getting rated by shit that they put out all the time before snipe season, and not just on battles that they've won in the past?? mufuckas looking like they ran out of bars...true shit (one person in particular, who will probably have a lame comeback to me just stating pros and cons about each)...the BOTTOM LINE like the 26 column of a college ruled sheet of paper...*ahem*...Maestro's ova So low
^That should make some good arguing....all love my friends llolaoalmdoasfoiasfasf]


..... i honestly laughed when i read all that shit... and then you delete it .... lol

solo>maestro's

the fact you are comparing yourself and grizzy and joey .. to any of solo.... ? you're so fucking wack
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I'm Quoting LOQuence ....

[You know it....and i just realized yall said yall captains and leaders would body us???...you've gone to far now...16th ave is dope but he cant beat anybody in our crew and he's not active..King John is a biter...ill find the link when i posted it on his battle...and hes all gunplay...uhhh Dosage, not active..uhhh STOY would probably be the best in your captains, and hes not active.

As for the Leaders Swift isnt active, Ohs imo kinda fell off in the last battles ive seen, but he was dope i guess. Erupt, he's dope, that would be a good battle..Swissha...he'd body me no lie..Pronto doesn't text battle/inactive..SpliFF...not fucking with us...EJT only wrote slightly better in our battle because of flow...HonesThought is dope, probably one of the top on here.

If you look at maestros Rican will body everybody and a close battle would come around with maybe two people...Spooky will do the same..i think, but isnt really active...Cryptology isn't much active so cant say...Black will fuck some shit up...Joey will fuck some shit up...ImAMonster is bout to get back inactive..havent read much from him....Anonymous P will fuck shit up...Grizz...will fuck shit up...Mind Fuckk.....will fuck shit up...Frankie Clipz...will fuck shit up.....Halogen would probably flex most of all..and he just got on here btw...Sanny will fuck shit upp..Amity...will fuck shit up...IAmFlow will definately fuck shit up...last but not least...I'll fuck shit up...lets be honest now, if we all didnt have names on here and our Avys were blank, profiles were blank, crews were blank...who would actually win battles??? who actually has bars???..put aside nameplay...who actually has more talent? who actually is fucking active??? who is getting rated by shit that they put out all the time before snipe season, and not just on battles that they've won in the past?? mufuckas looking like they ran out of bars...true shit (one person in particular, who will probably have a lame comeback to me just stating pros and cons about each)...the BOTTOM LINE like the 26 column of a college ruled sheet of paper...*ahem*...Maestro's ova So low
^That should make some good arguing....all love my friends llolaoalmdoasfoiasfasf]


..... i honestly laughed when i read all that shit... and then you delete it .... lol

solo>maestro's

the fact you are comparing yourself and grizzy and joey .. to any of solo.... ? you're so fucking wack
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Reefer, Jimmy, Swifty, Pronto, EJT, Erupt
Rican, Crypt, Spook, Flow, Mind, Joey

Personally, one takes it....easily.

I'll let you guys find out who.

this would be a slaughter ... i like the matchups too
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Reefer, Jimmy, Swifty, Pronto, EJT, Erupt
Rican, Crypt, Spook, Flow, Mind, Joey

Personally, one takes it....easily.

I'll let you guys find out who.

this would be a slaughter ... i like the matchups too
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I'm Quoting LOQuence ....

[You know it....and i just realized yall said yall captains and leaders would body us???...you've gone to far now...16th ave is dope but he cant beat anybody in our crew and he's not active..King John is a biter...ill find the link when i posted it on his battle...and hes all gunplay...uhhh Dosage, not active..uhhh STOY would probably be the best in your captains, and hes not active.

As for the Leaders Swift isnt active, Ohs imo kinda fell off in the last battles ive seen, but he was dope i guess. Erupt, he's dope, that would be a good battle..Swissha...he'd body me no lie..Pronto doesn't text battle/inactive..SpliFF...not fucking with us...EJT only wrote slightly better in our battle because of flow...HonesThought is dope, probably one of the top on here.

If you look at maestros Rican will body everybody and a close battle would come around with maybe two people...Spooky will do the same..i think, but isnt really active...Cryptology isn't much active so cant say...Black will fuck some shit up...Joey will fuck some shit up...ImAMonster is bout to get back inactive..havent read much from him....Anonymous P will fuck shit up...Grizz...will fuck shit up...Mind Fuckk.....will fuck shit up...Frankie Clipz...will fuck shit up.....Halogen would probably flex most of all..and he just got on here btw...Sanny will fuck shit upp..Amity...will fuck shit up...IAmFlow will definately fuck shit up...last but not least...I'll fuck shit up...lets be honest now, if we all didnt have names on here and our Avys were blank, profiles were blank, crews were blank...who would actually win battles??? who actually has bars???..put aside nameplay...who actually has more talent? who actually is fucking active??? who is getting rated by shit that they put out all the time before snipe season, and not just on battles that they've won in the past?? mufuckas looking like they ran out of bars...true shit (one person in particular, who will probably have a lame comeback to me just stating pros and cons about each)...the BOTTOM LINE like the 26 column of a college ruled sheet of paper...*ahem*...Maestro's ova So low
^That should make some good arguing....all love my friends llolaoalmdoasfoiasfasf]


..... i honestly laughed when i read all that shit... and then you delete it .... lol

solo>maestro's

the fact you are comparing yourself and grizzy and joey .. to any of solo.... ? you're so fucking wack
^I didn't write that....nice try. But keep stacking up those weak ass bars you have...and only battle 3 good people..in a year..i congradulate u, washed up bastard...and yeah i did write that but then realized...no point of convincing a blind man.
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[You know it....and i just realized yall said yall captains and leaders would body us???...you've gone to far now...16th ave is dope but he cant beat anybody in our crew and he's not active..King John is a biter...ill find the link when i posted it on his battle...and hes all gunplay...uhhh Dosage, not active..uhhh STOY would probably be the best in your captains, and hes not active.

As for the Leaders Swift isnt active, Ohs imo kinda fell off in the last battles ive seen, but he was dope i guess. Erupt, he's dope, that would be a good battle..Swissha...he'd body me no lie..Pronto doesn't text battle/inactive..SpliFF...not fucking with us...EJT only wrote slightly better in our battle because of flow...HonesThought is dope, probably one of the top on here.

If you look at maestros Rican will body everybody and a close battle would come around with maybe two people...Spooky will do the same..i think, but isnt really active...Cryptology isn't much active so cant say...Black will fuck some shit up...Joey will fuck some shit up...ImAMonster is bout to get back inactive..havent read much from him....Anonymous P will fuck shit up...Grizz...will fuck shit up...Mind Fuckk.....will fuck shit up...Frankie Clipz...will fuck shit up.....Halogen would probably flex most of all..and he just got on here btw...Sanny will fuck shit upp..Amity...will fuck shit up...IAmFlow will definately fuck shit up...last but not least...I'll fuck shit up...lets be honest now, if we all didnt have names on here and our Avys were blank, profiles were blank, crews were blank...who would actually win battles??? who actually has bars???..put aside nameplay...who actually has more talent? who actually is fucking active??? who is getting rated by shit that they put out all the time before snipe season, and not just on battles that they've won in the past?? mufuckas looking like they ran out of bars...true shit (one person in particular, who will probably have a lame comeback to me just stating pros and cons about each)...the BOTTOM LINE like the 26 column of a college ruled sheet of paper...*ahem*...Maestro's ova So low
^That should make some good arguing....all love my friends llolaoalmdoasfoiasfasf]


..... i honestly laughed when i read all that shit... and then you delete it .... lol

solo>maestro's

the fact you are comparing yourself and grizzy and joey .. to any of solo.... ? you're so fucking wack
^I didn't write that....nice try. But keep stacking up those weak ass bars you have...and only battle 3 good people..in a year..i congradulate u, washed up bastard...and yeah i did write that but then realized...no point of convincing a blind man.
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