"Also if you really care about this place (I know you do cause you keep coming back) then VOTE it's that easy, take a few minutes and drop a few votes, all the forum antics / beef / content aside, that's what is keeping this place going, as in keeping new members around so it's not the same 12 people
Upgrading the site / Active Owner isn't going to mean shit if there's only us around, brand new site w/ crazy features is a WASTE if we can't keep the very few existing members around"
Haha in other words, we don't need updates because Student's satisfied with old broken LB. As long as battles are getting voted on by the same 4 and a half people, we're fine. We're running on the oldest version of vbulletin and he's still telling everyone all we need People to do is vote. The site can't even handle emojis and its 2021 lmao
Dudes stuck with a maintain mentality instead of a growing mentality. You think older members are gonna come back and stay because a Tain battle got 10 votes or because they see the place for a makeover? This ain't hard to understand.
Battles don't get votes because people are leaving and people are leaving because battles don't get votes.
If you can find a way to fix the blue box, then the red box WOULDNT happen.
Our site leaders are all jokes, no one knows how to run/grow a brand and when that time finally come, I'll be the last man on here typing "I told you so"
RIP LB
Alright, let me take a crack at this OP then figure out the rest of this thread
#1 I didn't close that thread so vamoose
#2 Do you actually disagree? If tomorrow Psuedo came by and upgraded the site, newest vBulletin version, new battling / voting system, etc. would that actually fix our low activity?
#3 I'm not satisfied w/ the current state of LB and I never have been, I've been questioning Staff since I got here (2006) before I was on Staff originally (2007) and have ever since then. I've dropped more complaints before you ever got here (2009) then YOU have up to now (You think I'm annoying now you should've seen me back then lol ask EtH or Odin)
#4.5 The point of asking you to vote was so 5 & a half people would be voting, not the same 4.5 (Oh look emoji's work)
#5 I recently brought back the LBT to GROW our userbase and we've had 25 quality battles (so far) along with retaining new-er members who a year ago weren't around. Also introduced Rookie of the Month (to keep new members) Bonus Matches & integrated One Bar King (to keep existing members / incentivize them w/ additional interchangeable monthly titles) I've also handed out numerous Awards & Emcee Items, kept the Stats section alive, deleted SPAM, etc. which is ALL things YOU could've done as a Staff member yet you chose to complain and expected to get promoted
#6 I already answered your Blue / Red question, I said "Vote so we keep new members around" and you said "People are leaving because battles don't close", how do you we close battles? We VOTE
#7 I've personally voted on 70+ battles since September, last time you vote Audio was more then a year ago (10/31/2020) and before that it was 4 months previous (6/8/2020) Text was slightly better (10/11/2020) before that (9/23/2020) Sorry :o #'s don't lie
#8 In conclusion, this isn't rocket science, I encourage people to vote because it does help, close battles / feedback / member retention, etc. Odin & I are doing everything in our very limited power to keep this place alive because we've been here so long / actually care about LB but we can only do so much, we know it's up to the Community whether this place is alive or not, not who's in charge atm (No offense @Psuedo Nim) and while I love the forums / talking shit, it's Votes that close battles and crown Champions
"Also if you really care about this place (I know you do cause you keep coming back) then VOTE it's that easy, take a few minutes and drop a few votes, all the forum antics / beef / content aside, that's what is keeping this place going, as in keeping new members around so it's not the same 12 people
Upgrading the site / Active Owner isn't going to mean shit if there's only us around, brand new site w/ crazy features is a WASTE if we can't keep the very few existing members around"
Haha in other words, we don't need updates because Student's satisfied with old broken LB. As long as battles are getting voted on by the same 4 and a half people, we're fine. We're running on the oldest version of vbulletin and he's still telling everyone all we need People to do is vote. The site can't even handle emojis and its 2021 lmao
Dudes stuck with a maintain mentality instead of a growing mentality. You think older members are gonna come back and stay because a Tain battle got 10 votes or because they see the place for a makeover? This ain't hard to understand.
Battles don't get votes because people are leaving and people are leaving because battles don't get votes.
If you can find a way to fix the blue box, then the red box WOULDNT happen.
Our site leaders are all jokes, no one knows how to run/grow a brand and when that time finally come, I'll be the last man on here typing "I told you so"
RIP LB
Alright, let me take a crack at this OP then figure out the rest of this thread
#1 I didn't close that thread so vamoose
#2 Do you actually disagree? If tomorrow Psuedo came by and upgraded the site, newest vBulletin version, new battling / voting system, etc. would that actually fix our low activity?
#3 I'm not satisfied w/ the current state of LB and I never have been, I've been questioning Staff since I got here (2006) before I was on Staff originally (2007) and have ever since then. I've dropped more complaints before you ever got here (2009) then YOU have up to now (You think I'm annoying now you should've seen me back then lol ask EtH or Odin)
#4.5 The point of asking you to vote was so 5 & a half people would be voting, not the same 4.5 (Oh look emoji's work)
#5 I recently brought back the LBT to GROW our userbase and we've had 25 quality battles (so far) along with retaining new-er members who a year ago weren't around. Also introduced Rookie of the Month (to keep new members) Bonus Matches & integrated One Bar King (to keep existing members / incentivize them w/ additional interchangeable monthly titles) I've also handed out numerous Awards & Emcee Items, kept the Stats section alive, deleted SPAM, etc. which is ALL things YOU could've done as a Staff member yet you chose to complain and expected to get promoted
#6 I already answered your Blue / Red question, I said "Vote so we keep new members around" and you said "People are leaving because battles don't close", how do you we close battles? We VOTE
#7 I've personally voted on 70+ battles since September, last time you vote Audio was more then a year ago (10/31/2020) and before that it was 4 months previous (6/8/2020) Text was slightly better (10/11/2020) before that (9/23/2020) Sorry :o #'s don't lie
#8 In conclusion, this isn't rocket science, I encourage people to vote because it does help, close battles / feedback / member retention, etc. Odin & I are doing everything in our very limited power to keep this place alive because we've been here so long / actually care about LB but we can only do so much, we know it's up to the Community whether this place is alive or not, not who's in charge atm (No offense @Psuedo Nim) and while I love the forums / talking shit, it's Votes that close battles and crown Champions
Alright, let me take a crack at this OP then figure out the rest of this thread
#1 I didn't close that thread so vamoose
#2 Do you actually disagree? If tomorrow Psuedo came by and upgraded the site, newest vBulletin version, new battling / voting system, etc. would that actually fix our low activity?
#3 I'm not satisfied w/ the current state of LB and I never have been, I've been questioning Staff since I got here (2006) before I was on Staff originally (2007) and have ever since then. I've dropped more complaints before you ever got here (2009) then YOU have up to now (You think I'm annoying now you should've seen me back then lol ask EtH or Odin)
#4.5 The point of asking you to vote was so 5 & a half people would be voting, not the same 4.5 (Oh look emoji's work)
#5 I recently brought back the LBT to GROW our userbase and we've had 25 quality battles (so far) along with retaining new-er members who a year ago weren't around. Also introduced Rookie of the Month (to keep new members) Bonus Matches & integrated One Bar King (to keep existing members / incentivize them w/ additional interchangeable monthly titles) I've also handed out numerous Awards & Emcee Items, kept the Stats section alive, deleted SPAM, etc. which is ALL things YOU could've done as a Staff member yet you chose to complain and expected to get promoted
#6 I already answered your Blue / Red question, I said "Vote so we keep new members around" and you said "People are leaving because battles don't close", how do you we close battles? We VOTE
#7 I've personally voted on 70+ battles since September, last time you vote Audio was more then a year ago (10/31/2020) and before that it was 4 months previous (6/8/2020) Text was slightly better (10/11/2020) before that (9/23/2020) Sorry :o #'s don't lie
#8 In conclusion, this isn't rocket science, I encourage people to vote because it does help, close battles / feedback / member retention, etc. Odin & I are doing everything in our very limited power to keep this place alive because we've been here so long / actually care about LB but we can only do so much, we know it's up to the Community whether this place is alive or not, not who's in charge atm (No offense @Psuedo Nim) and while I love the forums / talking shit, it's Votes that close battles and crown Champions
Alright you kept it peaceful so I can't be an ass here
But yall been telling people to vote for years. Nah it dont work because it's the same people voting on these battles. If Student got 4 open battles, im gonna get tired of reading your shit and lose motivation to constantly click on them.
We aren't getting new members because we are outdated. It's 2021, people are using apps, video, easy to use shit. For example, check out the app called BattleMe in both play stores. They're active asf because it's easy asf to use.
Last year, discord was wayyyy more active than the site and yall said "discord is killing LB" no, LB was already dead for 1, for 2, discord is easy to use and that's literally where everyone battles because it's so simple and mobile friendly. Even had guys like Phil Banks, Godbody, Final Word, etc come out of retirement.
So ya, us voting more on LB ain't doing a damn thing. Yall even though removing the chat box because people used it more would help. lol ya let's remove the things the site likes and try to FORCE them to do shit when they don't have to.
All I'm saying is, if that's not prime example of why the place needs to be more 2021 ish, idk what to tell yall.
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Alright, let me take a crack at this OP then figure out the rest of this thread
#1 I didn't close that thread so vamoose
#2 Do you actually disagree? If tomorrow Psuedo came by and upgraded the site, newest vBulletin version, new battling / voting system, etc. would that actually fix our low activity?
#3 I'm not satisfied w/ the current state of LB and I never have been, I've been questioning Staff since I got here (2006) before I was on Staff originally (2007) and have ever since then. I've dropped more complaints before you ever got here (2009) then YOU have up to now (You think I'm annoying now you should've seen me back then lol ask EtH or Odin)
#4.5 The point of asking you to vote was so 5 & a half people would be voting, not the same 4.5 (Oh look emoji's work)
#5 I recently brought back the LBT to GROW our userbase and we've had 25 quality battles (so far) along with retaining new-er members who a year ago weren't around. Also introduced Rookie of the Month (to keep new members) Bonus Matches & integrated One Bar King (to keep existing members / incentivize them w/ additional interchangeable monthly titles) I've also handed out numerous Awards & Emcee Items, kept the Stats section alive, deleted SPAM, etc. which is ALL things YOU could've done as a Staff member yet you chose to complain and expected to get promoted
#6 I already answered your Blue / Red question, I said "Vote so we keep new members around" and you said "People are leaving because battles don't close", how do you we close battles? We VOTE
#7 I've personally voted on 70+ battles since September, last time you vote Audio was more then a year ago (10/31/2020) and before that it was 4 months previous (6/8/2020) Text was slightly better (10/11/2020) before that (9/23/2020) Sorry :o #'s don't lie
#8 In conclusion, this isn't rocket science, I encourage people to vote because it does help, close battles / feedback / member retention, etc. Odin & I are doing everything in our very limited power to keep this place alive because we've been here so long / actually care about LB but we can only do so much, we know it's up to the Community whether this place is alive or not, not who's in charge atm (No offense @Psuedo Nim) and while I love the forums / talking shit, it's Votes that close battles and crown Champions
Alright you kept it peaceful so I can't be an ass here
But yall been telling people to vote for years. Nah it dont work because it's the same people voting on these battles. If Student got 4 open battles, im gonna get tired of reading your shit and lose motivation to constantly click on them.
We aren't getting new members because we are outdated. It's 2021, people are using apps, video, easy to use shit. For example, check out the app called BattleMe in both play stores. They're active asf because it's easy asf to use.
Last year, discord was wayyyy more active than the site and yall said "discord is killing LB" no, LB was already dead for 1, for 2, discord is easy to use and that's literally where everyone battles because it's so simple and mobile friendly. Even had guys like Phil Banks, Godbody, Final Word, etc come out of retirement.
So ya, us voting more on LB ain't doing a damn thing. Yall even though removing the chat box because people used it more would help. lol ya let's remove the things the site likes and try to FORCE them to do shit when they don't have to.
All I'm saying is, if that's not prime example of why the place needs to be more 2021 ish, idk what to tell yall.
Our site leaders are all jokes, no one knows how to run/grow a brand and when that time finally come, I'll be the last man on here typing "I told you so"
Clown was literally one of "Our sites leaders" 3 days ago....
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rowdy
We're running on the oldest version of vbulletin and he's still telling everyone all we need Peeple to do is vote. The site can't even handle emojis and its 2021 lmao
RIP LB
You think the site is dead cause we can't post emojis?....*dies
Our site leaders are all jokes, no one knows how to run/grow a brand and when that time finally come, I'll be the last man on here typing "I told you so"
Clown was literally one of "Our sites leaders" 3 days ago....
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rowdy
We're running on the oldest version of vbulletin and he's still telling everyone all we need Peeple to do is vote. The site can't even handle emojis and its 2021 lmao
RIP LB
You think the site is dead cause we can't post emojis?....*dies
Alright you kept it peaceful so I can't be an ass here
But yall been telling people to vote for years. Nah it dont work because it's the same people voting on these battles. If Student got 4 open battles, im gonna get tired of reading your shit and lose motivation to constantly click on them.
We aren't getting new members because we are outdated. It's 2021, people are using apps, video, easy to use shit. For example, check out the app called BattleMe in both play stores. They're active asf because it's easy asf to use.
Last year, discord was wayyyy more active than the site and yall said "discord is killing LB" no, LB was already dead for 1, for 2, discord is easy to use and that's literally where everyone battles because it's so simple and mobile friendly. Even had guys like Phil Banks, Godbody, Final Word, etc come out of retirement.
So ya, us voting more on LB ain't doing a damn thing. Yall even though removing the chat box because people used it more would help. lol ya let's remove the things the site likes and try to FORCE them to do shit when they don't have to.
All I'm saying is, if that's not prime example of why the place needs to be more 2021 ish, idk what to tell yall.
I agree on getting sick of reading people's battles but it's not really an issue anymore, people like Bnas are in the past now, if you look at the current Top 10, besides Phroxen & Masked-Reaper there's an average of 5-6 battles per user (Mid-November into the Season too) so 2-3 battles/month
I agree it's completely outdated, vBulletin aside, the site visually hasn't been updated since 2007 which was 14 YEARS AGO, I know I was here Despite the changes in management, mistakes in the past, v4 promises, etc. I still think LB is a QUALITY site where there is untapped creative potential, undiscovered musical acts and hilarious all around members who aren't caught up in today's bullshit, politics, etc. It's just BARS or talking shit, it's one of the last places on the Internet that exist where you can call someone retarded, gay, faggot, etc. and you don't get automatically BANNED over PC culture. I'll check out BattleMe but I highly doubt I'll see anywhere near the level of talent or shit talking on there.
Yeah I really slept on Discord tbh and I was one of those people saying "It's taking activity away from the site" but I've since realized it's a perfect addition to the site especially with it's untapped Live Battling potential. I'm not sure if any Live Battles have gone down but they need to start happening again, NOW, I'm 100% on Discord & LB co-existing
Chat Box removal STILL sounds like a good idea to me tbh, I think it would encourage users to be more open, talk shit in public (via forums & comments) and either back it up in a battle OR get laughed at, either way it's more entertaining then a "you had to be there joke" that happens in the chat, at a random time, that eventually get deleted
Look, I'm not trying to cover anything up or tell you this site is GOLD when it's at best Bronze but I'm just being straight up, if everyone contributes, battling/voting/posting/uploading then this site will be around for a couple more years, maybe another 15 but if not then it dies (forreal this time) and it's over, maybe the battlers in Discord start their own site or Channel but it's not going to be this complex OR have the nostalgia of LetsBeef
Alright you kept it peaceful so I can't be an ass here
But yall been telling people to vote for years. Nah it dont work because it's the same people voting on these battles. If Student got 4 open battles, im gonna get tired of reading your shit and lose motivation to constantly click on them.
We aren't getting new members because we are outdated. It's 2021, people are using apps, video, easy to use shit. For example, check out the app called BattleMe in both play stores. They're active asf because it's easy asf to use.
Last year, discord was wayyyy more active than the site and yall said "discord is killing LB" no, LB was already dead for 1, for 2, discord is easy to use and that's literally where everyone battles because it's so simple and mobile friendly. Even had guys like Phil Banks, Godbody, Final Word, etc come out of retirement.
So ya, us voting more on LB ain't doing a damn thing. Yall even though removing the chat box because people used it more would help. lol ya let's remove the things the site likes and try to FORCE them to do shit when they don't have to.
All I'm saying is, if that's not prime example of why the place needs to be more 2021 ish, idk what to tell yall.
I agree on getting sick of reading people's battles but it's not really an issue anymore, people like Bnas are in the past now, if you look at the current Top 10, besides Phroxen & Masked-Reaper there's an average of 5-6 battles per user (Mid-November into the Season too) so 2-3 battles/month
I agree it's completely outdated, vBulletin aside, the site visually hasn't been updated since 2007 which was 14 YEARS AGO, I know I was here Despite the changes in management, mistakes in the past, v4 promises, etc. I still think LB is a QUALITY site where there is untapped creative potential, undiscovered musical acts and hilarious all around members who aren't caught up in today's bullshit, politics, etc. It's just BARS or talking shit, it's one of the last places on the Internet that exist where you can call someone retarded, gay, faggot, etc. and you don't get automatically BANNED over PC culture. I'll check out BattleMe but I highly doubt I'll see anywhere near the level of talent or shit talking on there.
Yeah I really slept on Discord tbh and I was one of those people saying "It's taking activity away from the site" but I've since realized it's a perfect addition to the site especially with it's untapped Live Battling potential. I'm not sure if any Live Battles have gone down but they need to start happening again, NOW, I'm 100% on Discord & LB co-existing
Chat Box removal STILL sounds like a good idea to me tbh, I think it would encourage users to be more open, talk shit in public (via forums & comments) and either back it up in a battle OR get laughed at, either way it's more entertaining then a "you had to be there joke" that happens in the chat, at a random time, that eventually get deleted
Look, I'm not trying to cover anything up or tell you this site is GOLD when it's at best Bronze but I'm just being straight up, if everyone contributes, battling/voting/posting/uploading then this site will be around for a couple more years, maybe another 15 but if not then it dies (forreal this time) and it's over, maybe the battlers in Discord start their own site or Channel but it's not going to be this complex OR have the nostalgia of LetsBeef
Seriously though, I remember contributing to one of these posts awhile back. I said I would be interested in buying LB. X told me to email him an offer. Then I actually thought about it hard and the truth is in order for LB to be truly viable it would need to change beyond recognition. I mostly spend time here out of nostalgia and the current community, both of those things would be wiped out to turn this into a functioning business so I ended up letting it slide.
I guess my point is be careful what you wish for. If ownership really gave a fuck about making this viable it would no longer be what we know it to be. The entire format of the site is dated. The truth is this is never coming back so just enjoy the twilight years before it most likely dies like those before it.
Seriously though, I remember contributing to one of these posts awhile back. I said I would be interested in buying LB. X told me to email him an offer. Then I actually thought about it hard and the truth is in order for LB to be truly viable it would need to change beyond recognition. I mostly spend time here out of nostalgia and the current community, both of those things would be wiped out to turn this into a functioning business so I ended up letting it slide.
I guess my point is be careful what you wish for. If ownership really gave a fuck about making this viable it would no longer be what we know it to be. The entire format of the site is dated. The truth is this is never coming back so just enjoy the twilight years before it most likely dies like those before it.
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Despite the changes in management, mistakes in the past, v4 promises, etc. I still think LB is a QUALITY site where there is untapped creative potential, undiscovered musical acts and hilarious all around members who aren't caught up in today's bullshit, politics, etc. It's just BARS or talking shit, it's one of the last places on the Internet that exist where you can call someone retarded, gay, faggot, etc. and you don't get automatically BANNED over PC culture. I'll check out BattleMe but I highly doubt I'll see anywhere near the level of talent or shit talking on there.
but if not then it dies (forreal this time) and it's over, maybe the battlers in Discord start their own site or Channel but it's not going to be this complex OR have the nostalgia of LetsBeef
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