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Unread 11-05-2018, 07:15 PM
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Default Everybody answer... How’d you hear about Letbeef.com

Just curious...

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I read about it in The Source magazine & signed up
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I'm so old i have trouble holding my poop in when i fart.......Hows that for imagery?
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Unread 11-05-2018, 07:15 PM   #1
 
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Default Everybody answer... How’d you hear about Letbeef.com

Just curious...

---------- Post added at 06:15 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:15 PM ----------

I read about it in The Source magazine & signed up
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I'm so old i have trouble holding my poop in when i fart.......Hows that for imagery?
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Unread 11-05-2018, 07:18 PM
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I can't remember exactly, or what I searched... but I knew there HAD to be some form of rapping online, and I googled around until I found LetsBeef.
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Unread 11-05-2018, 07:18 PM   #2
 
Seul Seul is on FIRE! 30+ wins in a row!Seul is on FIRE! 30+ wins in a row!Seul is on FIRE! 30+ wins in a row!
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I can't remember exactly, or what I searched... but I knew there HAD to be some form of rapping online, and I googled around until I found LetsBeef.
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Unread 11-05-2018, 07:19 PM
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I found out about it from googling "freestyle battle forum," or something like that, and it was on the first page. We definitely need to improve our SEO to make sure we're ranking high on Google again.
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I found out about it from googling "freestyle battle forum," or something like that, and it was on the first page. We definitely need to improve our SEO to make sure we're ranking high on Google again.
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Unread 11-05-2018, 07:33 PM
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I heard about it because someone was on here and wanted me to ghostwrite for their battles on here. He offered to pay me.. And I came here as a spectator. Then I stuck around because of the level of competition and learned a lot. This place has been my 2nd home and my biggest go to source for verse and style research on growing my own style into the battler ive become.
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I heard about it because someone was on here and wanted me to ghostwrite for their battles on here. He offered to pay me.. And I came here as a spectator. Then I stuck around because of the level of competition and learned a lot. This place has been my 2nd home and my biggest go to source for verse and style research on growing my own style into the battler ive become.
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Unread 11-05-2018, 07:37 PM
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Someone linked it to me on a watch battlerap type site that I can’t remember off top.

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Someone linked it to me on a watch battlerap type site that I can’t remember off top.

Last edited by Edgeworth; 11-05-2018 at 08:07 PM.
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Unread 11-05-2018, 07:44 PM
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Google'd "Online Rap Battles" back in 2006, the rest is history.
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Student
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Google'd "Online Rap Battles" back in 2006, the rest is history.
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Unread 11-05-2018, 08:09 PM
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Google'd "Online Rap Battles" back in 2006, the rest is history.
Same but 11 years later
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Guggled it.
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Unread 11-05-2018, 07:45 PM
Erk
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I used to be on Lyrical Assault but it was gay. I likes the premise so i looked around and found Letsbeef.
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Erk
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I used to be on Lyrical Assault but it was gay. I likes the premise so i looked around and found Letsbeef.
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Unread 11-05-2018, 07:46 PM
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ELOH STACKz
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Mentioned: 814 Post(s)
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132 Won / 38 Lost
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3 Won / 0 Lost
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I used to battle on Network54 forums... that’s old old old school lol. Circa like 2002
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I'm so old i have trouble holding my poop in when i fart.......Hows that for imagery?
Might be a bit premature, but... Quote of the Year? Lol
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10 Won / 2 Lost
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132 Won / 38 Lost
Exclusive Text Record
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I used to battle on Network54 forums... that’s old old old school lol. Circa like 2002
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