Throwing in the towel

[John J]

raps a dead end... i have put out better cds then the few cds of the greats...''holy fail '' i might give you one last cd and its over... im moving on to boxing..something you dont know about me... i been in and out of boxing since 14... its my last opition to make my family chubby.. if this last cd never comes to light, its been fun people.. i made some good tracks.. met some good people on this site and even the ones i beef with all i can say is do ya thing.. kokasion who used to be heavy on this and a mod and a great rapper told me this would happen.... one day the gift is just gone... so to every one here that still has that passion to speak your mind in the most lyrical way u know ...KILL THAT SHIT B4 ITS GONE! Thank for the love fans,,,

[John J]

raps a dead end... i have put out better cds then the few cds of the greats...''holy fail '' i might give you one last cd and its over... im moving on to boxing..something you dont know about me... i been in and out of boxing since 14... its my last opition to make my family chubby.. if this last cd never comes to light, its been fun people.. i made some good tracks.. met some good people on this site and even the ones i beef with all i can say is do ya thing.. kokasion who used to be heavy on this and a mod and a great rapper told me this would happen.... one day the gift is just gone... so to every one here that still has that passion to speak your mind in the most lyrical way u know ...KILL THAT SHIT B4 ITS GONE! Thank for the love fans,,,

[X-Calibur]

Well dude all i can say is .... Its a damn shame .... But good luck in your boxing pursuit ...

[X-Calibur]

Well dude all i can say is .... Its a damn shame .... But good luck in your boxing pursuit ...

[John J]

Originally Posted by X-Calibur

Well dude all i can say is .... Its a damn shame .... But good luck in your boxing pursuit ...

respect doggie

[John J]

Originally Posted by X-Calibur

Well dude all i can say is .... Its a damn shame .... But good luck in your boxing pursuit ...

respect doggie

[FreezyCT]

why do you feel its a dead end?

[FreezyCT]

why do you feel its a dead end?

[John J]

Originally Posted by FreezyCT

why do you feel its a dead end?

my last cd only got 770 veiws... its a dead end for me.. not saying it is for every one.. im just moving on.. instead of taking my anger out on paper im just gonna take that to ring which i have a wayyyyyyy bigger chance at that then music.. arron davis is my trainer and a friend of mine for years... he was the welter champ in the 90s aka superman

[John J]

Originally Posted by FreezyCT

why do you feel its a dead end?

my last cd only got 770 veiws... its a dead end for me.. not saying it is for every one.. im just moving on.. instead of taking my anger out on paper im just gonna take that to ring which i have a wayyyyyyy bigger chance at that then music.. arron davis is my trainer and a friend of mine for years... he was the welter champ in the 90s aka superman

[FreezyCT]

maybe youre just looking at it the wrong way..ultimately what was your goal with the music?

[FreezyCT]

maybe youre just looking at it the wrong way..ultimately what was your goal with the music?

[John J]

if i could make a cd better then holy grail but go now where whats the point? you feel me

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Originally Posted by FreezyCT

maybe youre just looking at it the wrong way..ultimately what was your goal with the music?

i never had big dreams with music... i understand its a ''you have to have money or know the right people kinda place... rick ross for example.. if he was on on lb we would clown him... music was a way i cleared my head .. with a small hope i could make some money off it.. it took me a year and a half just to make 1500 off my pain kills cd on cd baby....not enough..said it all on paper.. now imma just do that with my hands.

[John J]

if i could make a cd better then holy grail but go now where whats the point? you feel me

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Originally Posted by FreezyCT

maybe youre just looking at it the wrong way..ultimately what was your goal with the music?

i never had big dreams with music... i understand its a ''you have to have money or know the right people kinda place... rick ross for example.. if he was on on lb we would clown him... music was a way i cleared my head .. with a small hope i could make some money off it.. it took me a year and a half just to make 1500 off my pain kills cd on cd baby....not enough..said it all on paper.. now imma just do that with my hands.

[FreezyCT]

i hear you

but how much of the business aspect (of the music industry) have you researched and tried to pick up...the common saying is that business is 95% - which leaves only 5 for the music you make...and after you get over the hump of basement rapper, you realize that EVERYONE can rap...its overwhelming, but at the same time, how is it any different from boxing...you get to a certain level, and everyone can perform

[FreezyCT]

i hear you

but how much of the business aspect (of the music industry) have you researched and tried to pick up...the common saying is that business is 95% - which leaves only 5 for the music you make...and after you get over the hump of basement rapper, you realize that EVERYONE can rap...its overwhelming, but at the same time, how is it any different from boxing...you get to a certain level, and everyone can perform

[John J]

Originally Posted by FreezyCT

i hear you

but how much of the business aspect (of the music industry) have you researched and tried to pick up...the common saying is that business is 95% - which leaves only 5 for the music you make...and after you get over the hump of basement rapper, you realize that EVERYONE can rap...its overwhelming, but at the same time, how is it any different from boxing...you get to a certain level, and everyone can perform

the diffence is even if you put out your cd on your own besides the internet , you need to know some one.. some kinda plug., and even on your own you need to spread that shit around which most people will not even check causethey dont know u or it seems like spam... if 2pac was online .. not known and had no money for good promo no one would know him,,, yea he would have that 3000 downlods but thats it....im really not saying for anyone here to stop what thier doing.. go for it.. but as for me i been raping for years,,, i have ''never at peace''' 1-4 hosted by a famous dj which i never had to pay for cause she thought i was somthing... and the last 3 cds i made are really good and its just not working for me.... my rap is dead end comment is for me .. not to anyone here

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Originally Posted by FreezyCT

i hear you

but how much of the business aspect (of the music industry) have you researched and tried to pick up...the common saying is that business is 95% - which leaves only 5 for the music you make...and after you get over the hump of basement rapper, you realize that EVERYONE can rap...its overwhelming, but at the same time, how is it any different from boxing...you get to a certain level, and everyone can perform

and aslo with boxing.. i do have a plug... and i do have a great hook...not the hook here where u might boop ya head.. this hook will make ya head fly, lol

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but really.. i have writes block that hasnt left in a few months, but i dont want ''mood 4 thought ''to be my last,, i wanna make a great exit.. just not sure how hard or how long it might take.

[John J]

Originally Posted by FreezyCT

i hear you

but how much of the business aspect (of the music industry) have you researched and tried to pick up...the common saying is that business is 95% - which leaves only 5 for the music you make...and after you get over the hump of basement rapper, you realize that EVERYONE can rap...its overwhelming, but at the same time, how is it any different from boxing...you get to a certain level, and everyone can perform

the diffence is even if you put out your cd on your own besides the internet , you need to know some one.. some kinda plug., and even on your own you need to spread that shit around which most people will not even check causethey dont know u or it seems like spam... if 2pac was online .. not known and had no money for good promo no one would know him,,, yea he would have that 3000 downlods but thats it....im really not saying for anyone here to stop what thier doing.. go for it.. but as for me i been raping for years,,, i have ''never at peace''' 1-4 hosted by a famous dj which i never had to pay for cause she thought i was somthing... and the last 3 cds i made are really good and its just not working for me.... my rap is dead end comment is for me .. not to anyone here

---------- Post added at 07:39 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:27 AM ----------

Originally Posted by FreezyCT

i hear you

but how much of the business aspect (of the music industry) have you researched and tried to pick up...the common saying is that business is 95% - which leaves only 5 for the music you make...and after you get over the hump of basement rapper, you realize that EVERYONE can rap...its overwhelming, but at the same time, how is it any different from boxing...you get to a certain level, and everyone can perform

and aslo with boxing.. i do have a plug... and i do have a great hook...not the hook here where u might boop ya head.. this hook will make ya head fly, lol

---------- Post added at 07:47 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:39 AM ----------

but really.. i have writes block that hasnt left in a few months, but i dont want ''mood 4 thought ''to be my last,, i wanna make a great exit.. just not sure how hard or how long it might take.

[AfterThought]

G'luck with boxin man.

@Just C @Phil Banks

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[AfterThought]

G'luck with boxin man.

@Just C @Phil Banks

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